{"id":125,"date":"2006-12-29T11:29:07","date_gmt":"2006-12-29T18:29:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sackrider.org\/myblog\/category\/mythoughts\/this-is-a-cigar-lounge-theres-no-smoking-in-here"},"modified":"2025-06-15T06:07:44","modified_gmt":"2025-06-15T06:07:44","slug":"this-is-a-cigar-lounge-theres-no-smoking-in-here","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.sackrider.org\/wordpress\/this-is-a-cigar-lounge-theres-no-smoking-in-here\/","title":{"rendered":"This is a cigar lounge &#8211; there&#8217;s no smoking in here!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My brother Jeremy was in town for Christmas and we were able to spend time with his family for presents and dinner &#8211; but yesterday I got the extra privilege of going golfing with Jeremy and Dad.  After 18 holes (Par for the course is somewhere around 72 &#8211; I golfed an 85&#8230; ON THE FIRST 9!) Jeremy and I (Dad bowed out) went to dinner and then to smoke cigars.<\/p>\n<p>Dinner was OK &#8211; but it was Mexican (Jeremy&#8217;s choice) so I wasn&#8217;t thrilled, but the company was great.  We picked up a couple of cigars, Jeremy paid, and we headed for the Ritz where there is a great cigar lounge that we have been at a few times before.  Now there was a statewide ban on smoking in public places that passed in November by liberal tree hugging smoke nazis, but it doesn&#8217;t go into affect until January AND it doesn&#8217;t affect establishments that sell tobacco (like cigar bars and lounges) so we THOUGHT we were in good shape to head for the Ritz.  We were wrong.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The Ritz is owned by the Marriot (yes, google it if you don&#8217;t believe me) and the Marriot made a company wide decision to ban smoking in all of the rooms and restaurants AND lounges, affective immediately!  The lounge at the Ritz sells cigars (at a mark up of around 3x the actually retail price elsewhere).  They have a $1000 cigar on the menu.  They have a built in humidor AND rent lockbox sized humidors to wealthy clients (real estate tycoons, Phoenix Suns players, etc) BUT they now ask you to enjoy your $1000 cigar OUTSIDE!<\/p>\n<p>I know someone out there is cheering hooray but this isn&#8217;t a family restaurant and it isn&#8217;t a place where non-smokers spend their time.  Even the staff smoke cigars here &#8211; they are able to recommend full bodied, medium bodied, flavored, long, short, midrange cigars because they have ENJOYED them all, so we aren&#8217;t talking about saving the lives of the poor staff that cannot get gainful employment elsewhere.  WHY ARE THEY MESSING WITH A GOOD THING HERE!<\/p>\n<p>Normally, sitting outside in Arizona would not be a bad thing &#8211; the weather is nice here 11 1\/2 months out of the year.  But this time of year the temperature drops 15-20 degrees within a hour of sunset AND last night was one of the three days a year here that it rains!  Yes, it was around 50 degrees and rainy last night and it dropped to the low 40&#8217;s as the night progressed.<\/p>\n<p>We sat a little crowed under an awning on damp chairs near a couple of heaters with our coats and sweaters on.  I had a Rocky Patel AND a CAO Bella Vanilla flavored cigar.  They were both good.<\/p>\n<p>There was an upside to the night &#8211; we sat next to a couple of lawyers with the same level of passion on political and social issues as me &#8211; in the opposite direction!  I enjoyed the fast paced, quick witted, sometimes loud banter as we attempted to solve the world&#8217;s problems while enjoying a cigar in one hand, a scotch in the other (diet coke for me), and a hockey game in the background.<\/p>\n<p>P.S. While sitting with two lawyers my brother felt it necessary (as did I) to tell them the difference between a shame and a pity:<\/p>\n<p>Q: What\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s the difference between a shame and a pity?<br \/>\nA: If a busload of lawyers goes over a cliff, and there are no survivors, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s known as a pity. If there were any empty seats, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s a shame.<\/p>\n<p>P.P.S. I tried to tell Jeremy that lawyer jokes don&#8217;t work in a crowd because lawyers don&#8217;t think they are funny and non-lawyers don&#8217;t think they are jokes&#8230;  OK, OK I&#8217;ll stop&#8230;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My brother Jeremy was in town for Christmas and we were able to spend time with his family for presents and dinner &#8211; but yesterday I got the extra privilege of going golfing with Jeremy and Dad. 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